Barbara, let's be friends. We are clearly twins.
Julia Orwell
JoinedPosts by Julia Orwell
-
35
My first post: Pet Peeves from my JW past
by BarHarborBarbara infirst post here: longtime lurker but hesitant to take the leap.
my story is pretty much like everyone elses with little variance, but i thought id add a few details that especially tormented me when i was in.
im sure these are familiar, im afraid this is a bit of a rant.. --paradise: the constant chatter about a perfect world when most in the hall were not even slightly interested in taking care of the earth now.
-
-
-
16
Watchtower Travel Agency ???
by 4thgen inwho is making the travel arrangements for the international conventions?
i heard somewhere they did not use outside sources anymore to coordinate the airfares, etc..
-
-
Julia Orwell
I went to Myanmar for an international in 2009 and it was through Watchtower Travel. They made all the arrangements and chartered a local tour company in Myanmar to take about 100 jws around the country after the convention. We weren't allowed to make our own prep and join up with the tour later, we had to book the whole package and it was unbelievably expensive.
-
-
-
Julia Orwell
How will this work in Australia? There are only two conventions this year because one is international, and they're in December, way after these guys give the talks. Will the Australian jws simply see recordings of these talks? Lol to them because I, the "apostate", will know about the talks before the Australian jws will.
-
54
Does the WBT$ Train JW`s to be SocioPaths?!..
by OUTLAW inprofile of the sociopath .
this website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.. glibness and superficial charmmanipulative and conning .
they never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible.
-
-
Julia Orwell
Most jws are nice people who've been misled. We were like that when we were jws, certainly not sociopathic. I do think, however, that many who end up in high positions are like that. It's an organization that's easy to climb if you're a man with half a brain who can turn on some charm. There are many gullible victims to be had. The worst part is, these sociopaths really do believe they are serving God and are saved.
-
25
Can & Do j.ws receive Welfare payments?
by Composer2005 incan & do j.ws receive welfare payments?.
i would especially appreciate watchtower publications, articles etc if available, no matter how old?.
thank you.
-
-
Julia Orwell
They're probably ashamed of her. There's a real stigma attached to being a dole bludger.
-
25
Can & Do j.ws receive Welfare payments?
by Composer2005 incan & do j.ws receive welfare payments?.
i would especially appreciate watchtower publications, articles etc if available, no matter how old?.
thank you.
-
-
Julia Orwell
It's often that warped sense of values jws have, that they will take all the benefits of living in a country but will not contribute by voting or giving to charity.
-
25
Can & Do j.ws receive Welfare payments?
by Composer2005 incan & do j.ws receive welfare payments?.
i would especially appreciate watchtower publications, articles etc if available, no matter how old?.
thank you.
-
-
Julia Orwell
I've known of more jws living in subsidised housing than any other group of people.
-
25
Can & Do j.ws receive Welfare payments?
by Composer2005 incan & do j.ws receive welfare payments?.
i would especially appreciate watchtower publications, articles etc if available, no matter how old?.
thank you.
-
-
Julia Orwell
Yes the pioneer I knew who was on disability but could spend 18 hours a week in the recruitment work vexed me cuz ima think "ok if she can do that for 18 hours a week she can work part time at a low-exertion job." the annoying thing is, it's not even something I can denounce her to the welfare agency (Centrelink) for!!
Whatever welfare is available in a country, there will always be moochers to take advantage, irrespective of religion.
-
25
Can & Do j.ws receive Welfare payments?
by Composer2005 incan & do j.ws receive welfare payments?.
i would especially appreciate watchtower publications, articles etc if available, no matter how old?.
thank you.
-
-
Julia Orwell
I don't have any publications on the matter as I've destroyed all my cult stuff, but having been a jw in a welfare state (Australia) I have a lot of first hand experience with this topic.
In short, yes, jws can receive benefits. There are many benefits in Australia and jws can receive unemployment if they're truly unemployed (not doing cash-in-hand work on the side), disability, single parent, family, medical and study allowances. I myself have been on unemployment, medical and student while a jw, and it was all fine "theocratically".
Where it is considered unacceptable is if one pioneers while on unemployment, because technically they should be supporting themselves as the bible says to. Someone on unemployment technically should not have their pioneer application accepted ie they are not supposed to go on the dole to pioneer because it's a bad witness.
-
13
First Encounter With a Person From My Congregation Since We D-A'd
by Iown Mylife inan older sister saw me in the store and called out to me.
she's a widow; her husband was an elder.
i have not seen her for at least five years.
-
-
Julia Orwell
I've had them say to me on fb (haven't run into any at the shops yet thank goodness), "I hope you return to Jehovah." And I tell them, "I never left Jehovah [true, cuz you can't leave someone who doesn't exist], I just left an unloving organization that claims to represent him."
Df, da or inactive jws who are still believers I tell: I just don't believe it anymore..." And they're cool and move on. It's only the 'spiritual' ones who've been phobia conditioned to believe you're the spawn of Satan.